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* August 08, 2017, 03:39:53 PM
Hi All,


I am new to this forum and new to farming as a whole so I was hoping I may be able to get some advice from some of the more experienced people on this forum. My family and I are planning to move from the North West of Australia down to Tasmania in the next 18 month to enjoy a well deserved tree change. We are looking at buying 100 - 200 acres in order to enjoy a small hobby farm as well as a commercial venture into cattle and sheep.


My question is regarding Tractors. I have done a bit of looking around at different options to assist will general lifting around the farm as well as possible Hay production and cropping down the trac. To be honest I am a little confused. Would I be better to purchase a new Sota Tractor or a 10 year old John Deere? Money is restricted to about $50k for the purchase so I am just trying to get the most for my money.


Any advice you can give would be appreciated.


Thanks.

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    Tractors in Tips & Tricks August 08, 2017, 06:11:35 PM
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    Hi Aussie, how funny is that! We moved from Karratha in 2008 after selling our dive shop, to Kempsey on the mid north coast. We looked at Tassie but WAY to FRUZZEN for us! We bought a 150 acre property just out of town. I picked up a cheap old 80hp 4 x 4 Case with a loader for $6k and used that almost to ruin cleaning up the place. I rebuilt the motor and sold it for 10k then bought a new 4 x 4 Chinese Foton 90hp with closed cab, 4 way bucket, aircond, remote hydraulics, slasher and grader blade  (and free delivery) for 35k. It been a great tractor. Not as tough as the 1980 Case but keeps the place tidy.

    Oz
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    * August 09, 2017, 10:30:45 AM
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    Hi Oz,


    Thanks for the information. It is a small world. I have been in the North West for the past 12 years and it is time for a change. I love the cold so it will be a very nice change down in Tassie compared to Karratha :) Sounds like the the cheaper tractor might be the go then. I am looking at this package which includes a bale / fork and a bucket. I will ask them to throw in a slasher.


    http://www.sotatractors.com/apollo-tractors-for-sale/apollo-tractor-110hp-ac-cabin-package/


    Should get me by without to many problems hopefully.


    One last question. Do all brands of implements work with all tractors either via PTO or Hydraulic or are you restricted?


    Cheers
    Aussie



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    Tractors in Tips & Tricks August 10, 2017, 12:26:28 AM
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    On the second line of the specs it states: Cat 2 TPL (usually called 3PL)
    Tractor implements are attached via pins, Cat 1 is for smaller tractors, Cat 2 is a larger pin for larger tractors and heavier implements.
    If there is a mismatch between implement and tractor the pins can sometimes be swapped or there are adapter bushes.
    For the PTO there are also different sizes, for a tractor of that size, just guessing, I think it might be the 20 spline 1 3/4" PTO, could be wrong and it doesn't list it in the specs. Best you confirm.

    Likewise the hydraulics/remotes probably come in a larger size for larger tractors and implements, the salesperson will be able to give you the correct sizing.

    That is a lot of tractor for someone new to tractors, try and get someone with a bit of experience to spend some time showing you the ropes.
    Tractors, especially ones that size, are big, heavy powerful machines that don't tolerate mistakes too well.
    Be careful, farmers and tractors are disproportionately represented in workcover statistics, if you know what I mean.

    Good luck, enjoy your journey and please keep us updated.
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    * August 10, 2017, 12:33:54 PM
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    Hi Sav,


    Thanks for your help. After reading your post I think that I may be acting a little over zealous with my first tractor purchase. I might start looking at smaller options to learn the ropes. I suppose it will depend greatly on the land I end up purchasing and the amount of work that will be needed.


    I really appreciate the advice and I am sure that I will post many more silly questions before purchasing.


    Thanks again for taking the time to reply.


    Cheers,
    Aussie
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    * May 28, 2018, 12:34:30 PM
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    Hi,


    I too am looking at tractors but a bit smaller than the ones talked of here. I'm looking at getting a sub compact tractor with a front end loader. This tractor would be used to help move stuff around as I plant and maintain an orchard. I'm looking at planting a few hundred trees and want to mulch them to help improve the soil around the trees, reduce weeds and retain more water.


    I'm looking at little Massey Fergusons such as the GC 1705 and Kubota BXes. However there are these Chinese Dong Feng tractors. Currently there is a deal going for about $16K with five implements. I have no idea about Chinese tractors and haven't even seen one. The price is good but I'm wary of them. I am talking to a fellow on utube who has posted videos of him using one. He likes it and says he has done about 300 hours on it without a problem.




    I used to drive a big old SAME tractor, rated at about 70HP. Its still on the farm but I'm not interested driving such a big tractor anymore and it wouldn't be much use for building an orchard.



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